Running out of strenght to continue

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6 years 10 months ago #20338 by wheresmycupofsomething
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thanks Mary, I will do
I do understand depression for the most part, but didnt realise it came in the form of atypical... which i think means, you have the chemical imbalances without the obvious psychological symptoms. I suppose I thought I couldnt have depression, (oppression and despair yes) because I didnt have any of the unjustified sadness and other mental symptoms you would normally associate with depression

I have long regarded depression to be a physiological illness with thousands of possible causes in the domino stack for chemical & hormonal chains, to me mental illness from depression is merely a side effect, like a sneeze is to cold. yes mood will also aggravate the condition by triggering inhibiting the release of all sorts of chemicals. But at the end of the day I do believe it is a physical illness not a psychological one.

I think its misfortunate that society at large believes it is primarily a mental illness.

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6 years 10 months ago #20339 by Mary
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I think that is changing. There has been a lot of publicity and education about depression in the last 10 years and I think that most people now know that depression is a condition that can be treated, much the same as most physical conditions can and don't necessarily think that people can just "snap out of it".

I think it has both physical and psychological components. The psychological components are largely contributed to by the physical ones, but most people still need some counselling to help with it. It makes it much easier.

As for chronic pain - well, we are still working on that :) I think I am finding a greater awareness among doctors in general, but as for the general public - many still tend to think it is just a matter of a couple of Panadols and all will be ok.

We will get there though.

Mary

Not every day is a good day, but there is good in every day.

"“It’s delightful when your imaginations come true, isn’t it?” ― L.M. Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables

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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #20340 by Peter
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I think you will find the reason why they call it 'Clinical Depression' as opposed to 'depression,' is because clinical denotes a medical condition, whereas in the past we have always thought of depression as being emotional or psychological, which has not really been thought of as 'Medical' per se'.

Medical conditions require a more direct and invasive intervention, which is exactly what they do for clinical depression. It's a whole lot more than just talking out one's problems, which is not going to help much at all initially. Chemical imbalances are not going to be corrected with shedding a few tears and having a group hug.

See here: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clinical

clin·i·cal
adjective \ˈkli-ni-kəl\

: relating to or based on work done with real patients : of or relating to the medical treatment that is given to patients in hospitals, clinics, etc.
: requiring treatment as a medical problem
: of or relating to a place where medical treatment is given : of or relating to a clinic



Psychiatrists are 'medical doctors' not an allied health professional like a psychologist. Most psychologists are just like glorified social workers.

From what I have seen and learned is that clinical depression can manifest itself in many different ways, but there are often some common markers in most people that point directly to the condition, but not everyone suffers typical symptoms.

Without getting a second opinion, I guess you will never truly know.

You say that your psych has said you are not depressed. Well, what you are writing down here in this forum is lighting up our pages with huge red flags, to us moderators. We aren't medical experts, but we have all personally been down THAT Rabbit hole before and we know from experience.

So, if you wanted my opinion, which you might not want, but I'll give it anyway. Go get a second opinion, because if you do happen to be clinically depressed and do get the appropriate help, you may find life will take on a whole new meaning, you will certainly see things very differently and you may even save your family from falling further down into the abyss.

Certainly worth a second look. Don't you think?


Peter

I wish the ring (this Chronic Pain) had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened. (Frodo Baggins)
So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to us. (Gandalf the Grey)
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6 years 10 months ago #20341 by GeneralLeeCrap
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Solid support and advice on these forums wheresmycupofsomething :)
Good to have a chat and laugh with you other day as well even if you did play your guitar and sing lol :woohoo: sometimes we have to go day by day or even hour by hour... just gotta keep on keeping on.

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6 years 10 months ago #20344 by ineedhelp
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hi there, i am a new member and was looking for info on a new pain relief that i was prescribed but now i have read your messages
and i hope that you are getting help with all this.
i am 67 years old and waiting for a hip replacement, my pain is increasing all the time but now i am aware that there aremany many people waiting for surgery in nsw, i am on the mid north coast.
having been taking tramadol for a few weeks it virtually stopped working so went to my gp who referred me to a pain management specialist. i was prescribed palexia which was just released to the public last week.

i had very bad side effects after taking only 3 pills and was hoping to get info about this drug
keep your chin up, i know all about depression from the pain and i live alone making it very difficult to cope.
cheers

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6 years 10 months ago #20345 by Mary
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Hi ineedhelp and welcome to the forum,

I know full well the pain of an end stage hip. I have had two of them at a relatively young age and trust me, you will be a new person once you have had it. I went to a physiotherapist who gave me some relief. I took anti-inflammatories, but you would need to check that out with your doctor and you would need a prescription.

I don't know much about Palexia, but there is a link here with lots of information:

www.nps.org.au/medicines/pain-relief/opi...ined-release-tablets

I hope that you don't have to wait too much longer for your hip replacement. I had a friend who resorted to a gopher to get around during her wait. She also found that walking in water helped somewhat. But the ultimate answer is the replacement!

Mary

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"“It’s delightful when your imaginations come true, isn’t it?” ― L.M. Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables
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